The clean bodybuilding competitions use regular drug tests (urine samples, etc.) and they also use lie detector tests. The combination of these two testing measures are quite effective. In other types of bodybuilding competitions, steroids (and other PED’s including HGH) can be used by competitors. Those are the big money competitions. Would lie detector tests help to catch steroid cheats (and other PED’s including HGH) in Major League Baseball? If so, do you think they will use this technique in the future?

Note: Guys in the industry claim that many MLB players do cycles of steroids (Anavar, Winstrol, Deca-Durabolin, etc.) in the offseason and they use HGH during the regular season. And guys like Victor Conte say that the best HGH tests out there right now are inaccurate. So, if this is true (and I do believe it is very true), wouldn’t you think lie detector tests would put an end to all of this nonsense quickly? You know, combining regular forms of testing with lie detector tests.
Guys, there is a reason why bodybuilding competitions use these two testing methods together. It’s because it’s almost impossible to beat both tests. I am not saying they should get rid of traditional testing methods in favor of lie detector tests. I am just saying, the sport would most likely be clean tomorrow if the league instituted these two forms of testing. It really would.
I realize lie detectors are not 100% accurate. But neither are regular drug tests. Should we do away with thiose because they are not 100% accurate. And besides, it is nearly impossible to beat a lie detector test. Your odds of winning the lottery would be greater.
So I guess the real question is: Do you even want the sport to be clean? Does it matter?

I think so b/c he was’nt hit them out like the most and plus he was already doing well just wanted to play longer and i agree he shuld forward with his career and chill b/c he did’nt use steroids which most of the power hitter suse which is more to cheating to me.

I guarantee there are players currently playing who have taken it or are still using it, probably players people would be suprised used HGH for injuries and PED. Since HGH was undetectable when steroids were banned and when there was steroid testing Im sure players moved on to HGH like handful of retired and current players have admitted to using.

I’ve been working out, running, lifting weights, etc. etc. etc. a whole lot and I am looking into buying some body building supplements cuz I want to get ripped. Any tips or suggestions as to what I should get? No steroids or Hgh.

So I hate to sound like the cliche "i want to get big" kinda guy – but here goes. .

Im 20, measure 6 foot 1, and weigh about 155lbs.

I have been struggling to gain weight for 2 years now, and have never made it an oz. past 158.

I am extremely ripped, and have a body fat percentage too low to be measured by a fat analyzer. Last time I picked up anything it was 7%. I realize anything under 13% is considered unhealthy.

I am a nursing student, so I understand a lot about the production of steroids and other growth hormones. I also understand that placing something in your body generally results in the body no longer producing it as much, for as long as you’re supplementing it.

I think it’s viable for me to say that I have a testosterone deficiency. . and that has nothing to do with my being a nurse. Ha.

I grow VERY little facial hair, and I can’t gain weight. I also don’t seem to be getting any stronger.

What can I expect if I go through a cycle of a legal test supplement?

I’ve been working out a ton lately but I’m running out of time before school starts. I have a little bit of a difference but I want more mainly upper body. What are some good body building supplements to try/get? No steroids or hgh.

Suggested category: Health > Diet & Fitness

I posted this Q there but no one is answering so I thought I’d post this where there’s more ppl.

They award huge multi year contracts to players coming off a probable steroid/HGH enhanced great performance year. Seems like if Baseball owners REALLY wanted no steroid/HGH use, then they wouuld insist on weekly blood tests in contracts longer than 2 years.

Fact is no one cares about it except for Barry Bonds, who is singled out for 3 reasons: sports writers hate Bonds, Bonds uses more steroids/HGH and makes better use of them, and racism (in that order).

There’s nothing in it for baseball owners cleaning up steroid use from baseball. Will more fans come to steroid/HGH clean baseball, with more of the best players injured and injured longer, with a lower level of performance? I haven’t heard anyone say "I’m not going to a baseball game because half the players have 25 pounds of muscle they couldn’t had got naturally".
It seems probable that Bonds was using HGH/steroids in quantiy only AFTER 1997.
Alex Rodriguez has probalby used HGH since 1996 (reports he’s been linked to that), Roger Clemens would had been out of baseball for the last 5 years without performance enhancers.
Players who DON"T use steroids/HGH? Hmm, I think 90% since 1997 have used at least limited amounts, to recover from injury, aid performance in a contract year ect. And HGH will continue to be used.
If I was at that level, and it made the diffenence between geting a 2 year contract at million ayear, or a 3year contract at million a year (may be 150 players in that level of ability and experience), I’s use steroids in a heartbeat.

I’m getting a puppy soon and I wanted to make sure, does some liver contain growth hormones or steroids or does no liver contain it? Someone told me it doesn’t so I wanted to make sure. please provide a source with your answer.

Im going to start taking some HGH because they’ve found a safe way to make it 100% natural no side effects but its kind-of expensive…50$ for a months supply…if i stop using it after a month and keep working out am i gonna start lookin all nasty like them people who use steroids then stop?

I am 6′2" and i want to gain about 4 more inches or more.I dont know if taking human growth hormones are recognised as steroids.I am afraid to take it and not be able to play like in the nba since i might be checked and seen to have taken HGH?

What are the topped ranked growth hormones and muscle building steroids for building good muscle?

I’m a wrestler (hence the 152 in my name ) anyways, a couple of people i know have been taking creatine, and while i oppose steroids i have consider creatine or hgh, to help build up upper body muscle (bench 165, squat 320, working on arms, i have lower body strength naturally) either way i just wanted to know if anyone has had any LASTING results, and if they noticed any major negative side affects

Okay i’m a huge Laker and Kobe fan but i have to admit that Lebron is by far the best player in the league so far this season, well statistically at least. And i watched the Boston/Cavalier game before the Laker game came on, while i was watching Lebron score 38 points to lead his team over Boston i began to think…this guy is huge, about 6′ 8" 260 pounds. He can elevate over any player in the league, he’s extremely fast..i mean has anyone seen a 260 pound man go from one end of the court to the other in about 3 seconds? Then the way he just bully’s everyone in the paint is unbelievable. He’s basically a football player playing basketball, he can drive in the lane whenever he wants and just muscle his way to the basket leaving bodies behind him on the ground. The first thing that came to mind was steroids… and it makes sense if you think about it.

1) What other player has the kind of built Lebron has..6′ 8" 260 pounds

2) He’s sooooo fast!…again has there ever been a man that size being as fast as he is?

3) Take a look at some pictures, Lebron has a huge head. We’re talking about Berry Bonds type of head

4) Acne problems. If you people didn’t know, steroids causes acne.

5) Steroids doesn’t improve every aspect of your game—– James cannot shoot to save his life outside of the paint. Everything he does is in the lane, he’s been in the league for several years now and his 3-point shooting/free-throw shooting is as bad as ever so possibly the only reason why he can do everything he does in the paint is because of his physical play and steroid use.

And even guys that had become known as "the big athletic men" for example Dwight Howard, Amare Stoudamire, Ben Wallace do not have the body James possesses. Dwight is about 6′ 11" 260-265 pounds he has 3 inches on lebron and theyre around the same weight. Amare is 6′ 11" 250 pounds again 3 inches on James but not as heavy, and Ben Wallace is 6′ 9" 240…none of them are as big, fast, and powerful as LBJ.

After all this i bet you ANYTHING if the NBA were to test LeBron for steroids or any kind of HGH he would with out a doubt test positive, the problem here is that the league would NOT test him simply because Lebron is the face of the league at this point in time and that would ruin the NBA’s reputation turning into the new MLB.

But next time you "witness" the magic of #23 think about it. . .and maybe you too will realize that his body and athleticism is just not natural.

Your opinion?

-Rick
Okay…IF it’s just him working really really really hard don’t you think that more players would do the same?

I mean seriously the only reason why you’re protecting him is because you’re a Lebron lover.

don’t even use the excuse "he just worked hard to become what he is now"

get a 16 year old and make him workout as much as he can…i guarantee that he wont come close to getting the type of body Lebron had back when he was a junior in high school.

Like "Killa S" pointed out, no one has ever been considered the best player in the league by just having one face to their offensive game. All he ever does is drive into the lane push everyone out of the way elevate and dunk. 28% shooting from behind the three-point line?

oh and one more thing you were talking about how he’s worked sooooo hard and what not…okay well why cant he improve his jump shot if hes "worked so hard"? yea exactly. its called steroids.
Did i not talk about how Dwight Howard Amare and B. Wallace are all big athletic guys but none of them are as big as Lebron?

Howard has like 5 pounds on lebron even though he’s 3-4 inches taller.

I’m not a lebron hater, i even admit that he’s the best player in the league so far this season. and yes he does average more assists than kobe, but then again lebron has the ball in his hands 70 percent of the time, kobe doesnt handle the ball as much. if you watched the laker game tonight you noticed that kobe had the ball pretty much through out the whole game and he had 13 assists. so thats not too bad either.

about dwight howard just dunking and blocking, thats different. hes a center! you cant expect a center to develop a 20 foot jump shot. centers are meant to stay around the paint so dont even bring that up.
how does he get so many rebounds? he out muscles every other small forward thats how.

what? what other player drives into the lane like lebron does?
D-Rock if human growth hormones including steroids don’t make you jump higher, run faster then how come we hear about people in the olympics using some kind of human growth hormone to make them faster?

And okay i’m done with this, only time will tell. i might be wrong or i might be right and we’ll find out one day.

Is it just like you inject yourself with steroids and you naturally get more bigger and muscular without doing any work (weightlifting)? Or, do the steroids simply allow you to work out longer and with more intensity, and that’s how the steroids cause you to get bigger and stronger? Just curious….

Ok I know some of ya know me as the guy who has been saying Lebron James is on PED’s, just to let ya know I am no Laker/Kobe fan I am actually just a Basketball fan and I do not hate or hate on Lebron James I will in fact admit that he is the BEST basketball player in the league. I know a lot of you Lebron James fans does not want to believe that he is on Steroids and that is understandable because you a "Fan" but I want you to see some of my points on why I think the man has used or is still using PED’s, instead of ya calling me a "hater" to brush it off I will like for you to see what I have to say and maybe it will make you think.

1) What other player that plays his position has the kind of built Lebron has..6′ 8- 6′-9 250-260 pounds

2) He’s is sooooo damn fast!…again has there ever been a man that size being as fast as he is? If you can, please name 1 other man.

3) Take a look at some pictures, Lebron has a huge head. We’re talking about Barry Bonds type of head

4) Steroids doesn’t improve every aspect of your game—– Even though Lebron James has improved his shot he is still a mediocre shooter in my opinion decent at best. But mostly everything he does is in the lane, he’s been in the league for several years now and his 3-point shooting/free-throw shooting is still mediocre, so possibly the only reason why he can do everything he does in the paint is because of his strength, physical play which you can get from steroid use.

5) Even guys that had become known as "the big athletic men" for example Dwight Howard, Amare Stoudamire, Ben Wallace do not have the body James possesses. Dwight is about 6′ 11" 260-265 pounds he has 3 inches on Lebron and they’re around the same weight. Amare is 6′ 10" 250 pounds again 2 inches on James but same or not as heavy, and Ben Wallace is 6′ 9" 240…none of them are as big, fast, and powerful as LBJ.

6) I know a lot of you say that steroids or human growth hormons (HGH) does not make you jump high or run fast then how come we hear about people in the olympics using some kind of human growth hormone to make them faster example: (Marion Jones), also not all steroids make you grow veins all over your body Yankees 3rd Basemen Alex Rodriguez was a steroid user and he was not excessively big or had veins all over his body, there are now state of the art roids that do different things to you body including undetectable.

You can call it a "Freak of Nature" all you want but i bet you ANYTHING if the NBA were to test Lebron for steroids or any kind of HGH he would with out a doubt test positive, the problem here is that the league would NOT test him simply because Lebron is the face of the league at this point and that would ruin the NBA’s reputation turning into the new MLB.

Also you can say he worked hard to get his body size or what not but I’m pretty sure a lot of players in the NBA work just as hard as Lebron or more, what player in his position wouldn’t want the size of Lebron ? Come on don’t be ignorant guys. He is not a Center (even though he is bigger then a lot of them) but mostly all Centers are meant to stay around the paint so how does he get so many rebounds? he out muscles every other forward thats how.

All I’m saying is the next time you "Witness" #23 think about it. . .and maybe you too will realize that his body and athleticism is just not natural, and if ya don’t want to believe me that he is on some kind of Performance Enhancers then that is on you but I can bet my life that he is and when the world finds out he is just remember that "I told you so".

Any thoughts ?
@FightOnUSC!- You made some valid points however comparing Rashard Lewis to Lebron James is crazy, Rashard Lewis aint the "greatest" player in th league, What makes you think the NBA ain’t just protecting there asset, Lebron James testing positive for Steroid use will crush the NBA, also Nobody knows if Michael Phelps and/or Usain Bolt is on PED’s, how long it took for them to catch Marion Jones ? they probably would have never found out if people would have not snitched. Also steroids doesnt teach you how to play basketball you are right but you being a decent BB player on roids can make you great it gives you stamina, strength, even better vision and reflectes, all different kinds of roids out that work for different thing, not all roids make you look like a body builder.
@Lebron- When I say I will bet my life it was simply to make a point on how sure I am, like I said you dont have to believe it and I dont expect a person with a Lebron avatar to believe it or consider it, and what you said is on true Lebrons weight and his athletic ability including his speed is unnatural and does not add up that is why people use the term "Freak of Nature" but its ok buddy you can brush me off by insulting me that dont bother me at all… you will find out 1 day, you will see.

alright so I’m not bragging or exagerating at all this is how it is

for probably the past 6 months everyone at my high school agrees that I’m the "most ripped" guy in the school (i’m a sophomore now, might compete in bodybuilding senior year). I try to stay modest about it, but who am i kidding, i love the positive rep. guys treat me with more respect and are always hoping i’ll help them with working out, which i’ll always do.

however, if you were to ask anyone in my school who the SECOND most ripped guy in the school is, they’d all agree it’s a new freshman kid, a year younger than me also looking to get into bodybuilding. I’ve seen this kids muscles and seen him lift some huge weights, he’s the real deal. so at first I thought "alright, some healthy competition i’ll be a good sport and push myself harder". Then he started bragging to everyone for some reason about the fact that he takes HGH steroids regularly.

On steroids, he’s progressing faster than anyone could imagine. Most people say that if he continues to use steroids, he’ll be equal to me in less than a year, and surpass me soon after.

I don’t know what to do about it, should I accept this guy as a fellow bodybuilder, tell him to lay off the roids, or what?
kenny: thanks man, and i know a couple other natural bodybuilders at my school that agree with you. They’ve been working out twice as long as him and he crushes their stats, they’re pissed as hell.
ashley: thanks

I found out that the NFL tests for steroids but not human growth hormone. I also know that professional bodybuilding has stopped trying to test for it a long time ago. It is simply too expensive, the tests are not accurate, and there are many ways to beat the HGH test anyway. People thought that steroids are the problem in baseball. But I feel human growth hormone is truly the culprit. And that stuff has proven to be quite dangerous too. One professional bodybuilder even shot it up and it went to his heart and triggered a heart attack. He lived but it was a close call. I am not sure about the links to cancer just yet.

A roommate and I have been debating when someone should take protein in order to gain muscle during working out, before or after. There seems to be good reasons to do each.
Ex:
Taking it before allows to body to use it during the workout to build up the muscles.
Taking it after allows the body to use it to repair the muscles and make them bigger.

For best results should someone take protein before or after they work out?

P.S. We are not looking for answers about steroids, HGH, or other supliments. We just want to know about protein.

like idk has anyone heard of the product called Sustanon 300 Steroid? cuz its says u can gain like 20 punds in a few months while taking it and working out but i culd gain more weight prolly by takn a little more of a dosage cuz it says to take 1 pill in the morning and afternoon but i culd take 2 pills each time and make my results beter or what not….? idk
cuz idk i looked around and i thnk this would help me but im not too sure so if anyone knows anythn or somthn then lemme know cuz im 19 and im 130 lbs but i wanna gain soem muscle weight and try to get up to 150 and i kinda wanna build muscle fast cuz i dont wanna be at this weight anymore and i wanna build a stronger and better upper body
and ya i am a male if anyone was wondering….
oh and check this website out cuz its the link to where this product is and wht not and they let u know about it lol
http://www.hgh.com/steroids.htm
im jus lookn to jump start myy results and id only be takn the Sustanon 300 Steroid for a month period and then stop using it and then continue to lift weights weekly and wht not….
well it dont have to be the product but thts jus wht i thnk wuld be best for me to use UNLES someone else tells me tht another product is better cuz idk whts best to use and thts why i am askn for some help and advice on wht product to use for wht i wanna achieve here
and im pretty much set on using some kind of ANABOLIC steriod to jus jump my results lol im not gonna keep takn the steriods for a long period of time jus like a month and thts gonna be all lol or untill i run out of whtever product i buy to help me
so someone PLZ help and give me some advice on this lol????
thnks much =)
theres a product called Sustanon 300 Steroid and its NOT really a steriod..
lemme know wht u all thnk of this product and if u wuld take it or wht not..
http://www.hgh.com/steroids.htm
check this out and read bout the product i mentioned above which is the 300 steriod product lol

I’m 6′1" 20 yrs old and only weigh 150lbs. I have worked out taking creatine, weight gain, the whole shabang and nothing works.I have somewhat of a cut body build but not very muscular. Im looking to purchase some steroids or HGH. I dont need to hear about the dangers and everything else, i already know. I would just like advice on the best products out there that arent outrageously priced.

Thanks

This is a common known fact that these even the latest tests for HGH ans steroids can be beat. It was even documented in an article in playboy a few months back concerning professional bodybuilding. It got so bad that two leagues had to be created a few years back. A clean league where they test (it is very expensive to test) and a league where anything goes (the big money makers). Baseball should follow suit and create two leagues. Sometimes when I hear someone say that a certain player cannot possibly be taking steroids or HGH because they haven’t been caught by a test, I just have to laugh VERY hard.

They have one for steroids but why not any other drugs that these players use to cheat? When will baseball truly clean the game of all of the evils in it such as what I mentioned?

I grew up in the 70’s when players were skilled, fast, skinny, and naturally muscular. Now you got these huge plumped up artificial thanksgiving turkey looking guys swinging for the fences on every other pitch. A person would have to be super naive to believe that these players aren’t widely abusing HGH. There are no accurate ways of testing for it. Professional bodybuilding gave up testing for it a long time ago. And baseball can do nothing about it either even when former players come out and say that a large proportion of their former teammates abused HGH. I wish there were two leagues. One natural and one that was all about steroids, HGH, and supplements. The game is going to hell. I am watching a bunch of guys with fat butts ruin the game. And the pitchers are guilty too.

I’m a wrestler (hence the 152 in my name ) anyways, a couple of people i know have been taking creatine, and while i oppose steroids i have consider creatine or hgh, to help build up upper body muscle (bench 165, squat 320, working on arms, i have lower body strength naturally) either way i just wanted to know if anyone has had any LASTING results, and if they noticed any major negative side affects

I was on predisone for asthma and my doctor believes it might have caused me to have stunted growth (not positive yet though). I’m 15/f and I’m 5′7 or 5′8 ft (which doesn’t sound like the picture of someone who suffers from stunted growth) but I’ve been the same height since I was in elementary school and I haven’t grown since I started the steroids (which is what made my doctor wonder if the steroids had side effects because there’s been cases when predisone caused stunted growth). The women in my family average at least 5′9 ft to 5′10 (so I look pretty small). My body’s pretty much fully developed otherwise though despite it not really changing since grade school. I was wondering it sounded like I could have stunted growth. Also if I do have it, will I be put on growth hormones? What are growth hormones like and what will they do to my body? Please post. Thanks.
But my problem is I would like to model or play basketball (something you have to be tall to do). I’ve been offered modeling jobs but I sometimes don’t meet height requirements for runway (sometimes it’s 5′7 and other times it will be 5′9). And obviously I can’t do basketball at only 5′8. But all my family were top basketball players in their school and college years.
I don’t plan to model or play basketball forever. I have no want to be famous. I just wanted the money for school. My aunt modeled when she was younger and I believe I can take everything that comes with it. So those 2 inches would be very important to me.